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off that fiscal cliff. the deadline's tuesday. if the deal isn't reached, taxes will go up on just about everybody. and massive spending cuts will kick in. >>> in india, the young woman gang-raped on a new delhi bus is dead. doctors say she died peacefully at that singapore hospital where she was being treated. authorities plan to add murder charges against the six suspects arrested in that rape. the charges will be filed thursday. angry protesters have been demanding justice and more protection for women. and police expect more demonstrations in the days to come. >>> four people are dead after a plane crashed at the moscow airport. four others were injured. eight people were on board, all of them crew members when the plane overshot the runway. don't go away. at 2:00 p.m. eastern, the top stories of the day including that growing outrage over russia's adoption ban. hundreds of americans are frantic after being told their adoptions are not going to go through. we'll also take a look back at the year in politics and the fierce battles the unexpected alliances and of course the best
talking about for weeks and weeks, which is those tax rates. republicans are saying they want to keep tax cuts in place for incomes above $400,000. democrats from their perspective they say they have moved away from one source i talked to, their comfort zone, $250,000. they moved up from that. they're not willing to go above 400,000. the bottom line, i think it goes without saying, this is not a good sign that things are so bad right now and they're not talking at this point when we're so close to what is a clear deadline. >> it's beyond that. it's obnoxious, it's -- >> it's unsulting to americans, it's insulting to the world. more than 500 days have gone by since they came to an agreement that they would have to do something by now. it is quite remarkable that we are actually in this position. dana, excellent reporting, stand by there. i want to remind our viewers, two things that we're talking about here. the democrats had signaled that they might be able to use 400,000 as a threshold. the republicans had signaled they might be able to use $1 million as a threshold. but the speaker of t
. and then there was this. >> that reform has to go hand in hand with reforming our tax code so that wealthy individuals and the biggest corporations can't take advantage to deductions to those standing up here that aren't available to most americans. >> that was the first time that the public has heard the president say that he wants to raise taxes next year. >> let's pass the tax relief portion now, let's take what has been agreed to and get moving and we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold up the tax hike that will take place in ten hours. >> i want to give a kudos to senator biden. good for him and good for mcconnell. good evening. this is the kudlow report. now there still may be a vote in the senate tonight. the breaking news story devel developing on a minute by minute basis. let's bring in john who has been doing a brilliant job. good evening. >> reporter: we are still waiting for the wrap up of a deal between vice president biden and senate republican leader mcconnell. i got a message from a source in the senate who said we are getting there
cliff negotiations, that are going to eliminate this middle class tax hike, but the fact is, payroll taxes are going up. if you make $50,000 a year, you're going to pay a thousand more in taxes so when the president and congressional leaders stand up and say we saved the world, we avoided middle class tax hikes and look at your paycheck, you're going to realize they talk in a different language in washington and people get burned. stuart: i know you've got a poll on the blame game. i'm going to put it up on the screen now. i think it sails 44% will blame the republicans if we go over the cliff and 36% blame the president, scott, i think that's much more narrow than i thought. i thought republicans would overwhelmingly get trashed on this and get all-- >> no, because the republican voters say the president is to blame for everything. if their favorite football team lost it's the president's fault. a good solid base of republicans that have a different way and republican-leaning independents and 50% say both sides are to blame and the cynicism is unbelievable. they just, you know, righ
to bye down months of the cut but says the tax issues shooting forward. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending. but let's not let that hold up,be protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place. we can do this. we must do this. >> though it is down to the wire. >> it's december the 31. january 1 is tomorrow, 2013. taxes go up. >> frustrated senator john thune says the senate should have acted months ago to keep the u.s. economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class families from the tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues in which the two sides are still apart. negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the ag
that would let taxes rise on the wealthiest households while protecting the vast majority of americans from tax hikes set to hit in january. welcome to the saturday edition of "and the washington journal." for the first 45 minutes of the program we are going to be talking about senate negotiating a fiscal clifts deal, what has been going on on that half of the capital. see what they are talking about and how things are going. we want to get your input and your part of the conversation. you can reach out to us on twitter. facebook, facebook.com/cspan. and you can send us an e-mail. this is more from the article, the lead story in "the washington post." they ride, the development marked a breakthrough after weeks of paralysis. joining us by phone is one of the authors of that article, and, laurie, welcome to the program. tell us, what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? caller: there does not appear to be anything new. the policies they are talking about are the senate has been on the table
. i tell you, we get the prime guests right here. ed lazear says tax hikes hurt growth. find out just how much. liz: rich edson live on capitol hill with the very latest on the fiscal cliff countdown. larry shover live in the pits of the cme, and what action we saw, wow, and we've got more than $100 billion worth of advice from our market panel, bill greiner and sandy lincoln. but first, let's talk to rich edson and, rich, you know, you're looking at a situation at the moment where you have the president saying we're close, but no deal. you have senator mitch mcconnell on the republican side saying close, but no deal. leads me to ask, what about joe biden? our vice president? he's the one who kind of brought things together in the early morning hours. >> reporter: he did, and mitch mcconnell called vice president biden, and they were hammering out a deal almost to the point where the senate minority leader said when he woke up this morning he thought they did have a deal, at least on the tax portion. republicans saying they have worked out and reached agreement on the tax issues, the
the fiscal cliff that includes no tax increases. sbainer boehner and other republican leaders have been too scared about suffering publicly if the nation goes over the cliff and the tax sbikeses that are triggered in january. now that the plan b has failed these conservative republicans should be empower you ared to make big demands and stop caving to the president out of fear." guest: that doesn't make much sense to me. you have to get it through the house republicans then the president has to sign something, if that doesn't happen then you have very large tax increases a lot more than what they were talking about in their negotiating and you have the defense cuts that happen overtime and some other, nondefense cuts. you really have this huge amount of revenue, a lot of debt reduction. it is hard to see what demands the republicans can think will be easier to make come the new year. guest: plus, we've seen the president's approval level is at a high. and the poll should show that the republicans are going to be blamed if we go over the cliff and taxes go up. that is before the debacle with
creators from this looming tax hike. everyone afrees that that action is necessary and i can report that we have reached an agreement on all of the tax, the tax issues. we are very, very close. adam: close but you no cigar. the u.s. falls off the fiscal cliff at midnight despite something in the work. you heard what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said earlier today. we have members from both the house and senate on what happens next. i'm adam shapiro, in for melissa francis. on "money" the capital-gains tax in the cross-hairs. the capital-gains tax will spike in the new year. how can investors protect themselves from the coming blow? respect your elders or else. a parents dream, a child's burden. adult children forced to financially support mom and dad and pay regular visits in one major country. we'll tell you where and why they're doing it. even when they say it's not, it is always about money adam: had enough of the fiscal cliff yet? before we go there, let's take a look at the day's market headlines a whipsaw for the session for the markets on their last trading day of the year.
a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved weekend off. i'm t.j. holmes, good to be with you. new this morning, president obama outlining his course of action if we all go off the cliff. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we had a good meeting down at the white house. engaged in discussions in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday
trigger a big series of tax hikes and spending cuts. welcome to "america live" i'm rick folbaum. >> i'm arthe arthel nevel. the president is expected to make remarks within the hour about the on going negotiations about the so-called fiscal cliff. we'll bring that live to you when it happens. sources are telling fox news that congress has figured out the tax part. the main bone of contention is at this point the spending. the white house wants new spending using tax hikes to prevent some of the severe budget cuts that also kick in in 11 hours from now. republicans argued that is just robbing pete tore pay paul. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live at the capitol following all of the bouncing balls. hey, mike. >> reporter: one concern for republicans as they look at this deal is what about spending cuts? where are the spending cuts? it sounds like they are getting close in the talks between vice president joe biden and the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell but there is not a deal until senator mcconnell knows he has enough support. let's take a look at some of
am shibani joshi. ashley: and i and ashley webster. fiscal cliff talks are stalling. tax hikes and spending cuts. president obama said to speak in about 30 minutes from now. shibani: stocks are holding their ground. waiting for some sort of news out of washington. the dow sitting at session highs. at least we are closing. ashley: it changes with every headline. the world ringing in the new year. new zealand, australia, japan, china, we will get a sneak preview of celebrations being planned as times square gets prepared for 1 million visitors. it is a complete nightmare. [ laughter ] ashley: time now for stocks now as we do every 15 minutes. we are up 51 points. not too bad on this last trading day of the year. >> that is right. the dow has been pretty flat. going back and forth between the red and green. the nasdaq is up 30. same goes for the s&p stock of about nine points. we are also watching a settlement between u.s. regulators and about a dozen banks. sources tell the "new york times" that 14 banks include tank of america, wells fargo and jpmorgan chase. we are taking a loo
be shielded from tax increases, and now he wants an extension of unemployment insurance. that is something that essentially a nontarter in a republican-controlled house. now he is leaving it up to the two leaders in the u.s. senate try to reach a compromise. something perhaps along the line of what is being negotiated between the speaker and the president a couple of weeks ago. perhaps a tax increase for amounts of more than $400,000 or $500,000 per year. also, senate leaders want to include something on the estate tax, according to a white house official. we'll can also be key to this is that the white house officials are also telling fox news and ed henry that it appears as though the debt ceiling is not part of that. this is a huge nonstarter for republicans in the house. they want any dollar and increase of the debt ceiling to also involve a dollar in cuts over 10 years. if they don't have those corresponding cuts, it is unlikely that many of them will vote for an increase in the debt ceiling. removing them from the equation helps pave the way, at least for what will really be describe
tax. they 6 worked together before and they have succeeded reaching a deal before and folks on capitol hill they can do so again. >> less than 26 hours from what everyone calls a fiscal cliff. it would be comprehensive big package we hear them talk about, the big compromise that speaker boen and the president had worked out a year and a half ago? >> if you want what is known a as the grand bargain you would likely get in two steps. a small down payment, a tax rate increase and some of the spending measures and some of the other tax measures and perhaps instructions for the next six to eight months to congress to work on entitlement and spending reform and broader tax reform package. but all those specific details when you talk about entitlements and spending on the bigger side. $3-4 trillion deal that would have to be filled in over the next year. >> all right. rich, we appreciate it. just a reminder, 5:00 a.m., cheryl casone will have the latest on overseas trading but also any potential deal or leak that has a deal may be in the works. find out right here on the fox big network. fox
with the deficit in the biggest way. but their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. at some point, i think what's important is that they listen to the american people. >> joining me now, congressman chris von holland of maryland. good evening. it is a good sign that chained cpi is off the table. the senate will be back tomorrow at 11:00. how high is your optimism or pessimism at this moment? >> well, it was a very bad sign when senator mcconnell put this social security change on the table, as part of a small deal, that was obviously something that could have totally thrown a monkey wrench into the process. so the fact that they backed off that is obviously good news. but as senator reid said, there are lots of obstacles still to go. and the fundamental issue remains what the president just said in that clip. both today and for the last year, the number one priority of republicans have been -- has been to use the middle class tax cuts as leverage to try and extract these super big tax breaks for very wealthy individuals, including now their f
in terms of what we think the rates should be for -- and at what point there should be a tax cut and at what point there should be a little revenue that we should collect. there is a difference there. there was a difference about whether or not we should be looking at the social security issue in this discussion. my understanding now the republicans have backed off now, correct, and we are looking at whether or not we are going to end up with deficit and debt reduction and whether or not the changes the republicans are insisting upon are going to comes on the backs of the middle class. >> seine toe, the clock is tick. and i'm sure you heard during your campaign, which you just won, a lot of people saying what is going on with washington? we are so close now this deadline. you can't -- probably hard to put into words how frustrated people are are a lot of talking going on and you can't come together with republicans and they can't come together with you to stop taxes from going up for all americans. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washingt
cuts and the expiration of all the bush tax cuts. the latest in just a moment. right now, i'm joined by jamelle buoy. a staff writer for the american prospect magazine and "washington post" reporter, suzy kim. kevin williamson, dep deputy mag editor and a nonprofit group that advocates for social and economic equality. we're one day away from what most media are calling the fiscal cliff. if political concoction enacted by congress to frighten itself into passing deficit reduction measures which means unless congress acts in the next 48 hours the bush tax cuts will expire along with federal unemployment insurance and a broad package of the spending cuts including defense spending will take effect. do weeks of fruitless negotiations and john boehner and senate leader are working on a deal this morning to avoid the fiscal cliff, or as chris hayes and i call it, the fiscal curve. the deadline is soft. it's not like every american is going to be handed a bill on january 1st and there's way to manage the damage if the country goes over. the senate is set to convene this afternoon with the
and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to prevent reimbursements from declining and also have a milk fix, michelle that would prevent the doubling of milk prices which would occur without an extension of subsidies. >> why aren't people more optimistic? i haven't heard about enough spending cuts that would bring republican spending cuts. why are republicans more optimistic now? >> they're concerned spending cuts would not be a part of this deal. i talked to an aide who s
'm arguing for maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left wing agenda. that used to be considered a republican mainstream agenda. >> joining me senator olympia sn snowe of maine. let me start with that. it does seem sort of counter intuitive to have republicans wanting to fight for tax hikes for no one and in that fight, being willing to allow tax hikes for everyone? >> you know, i would agree with that. obviously it is important to make sure that middle income america does not confront a tax increase at the beginning of next year, which is less than two days away. that is critical. the second part is, of course, is trying to address the spending cuts that are going to be crucial next year as well. more for the long-term debt reduction that i think republicans are talking about, but the bottom line is, we should pass this tax extension for middle income america before we adjourn this year. >> and what is -- what do you -- where do you think this will land? as we understand it now, there is still a difference of opinion, about wh
republicans have had trouble saying yes." what has been going on here? wanted to president's raise taxes for people making over $250,000 a year and do that with some budget cuts and some and tom reform and that he has not been able to get any kind of action from the republicans. he believes there is a negotiation in which he has been the only person willing to put forward any kind of compromise and the house republicans have not been able or willing to do. the vote john boehner schedule and had to cancel is evidence of that in the present cost mind -- in the president's mind. we have part of what speaker boehner said. "the comments today are ironic as a recurrent theme was his unwillingness to stand up to anything in his own party. from the republican side of the aisle and speaker boehner, where are things at the moment? guest: the speaker had been hoping there would be a larger deal. the president was ready to move forward on in the time they had in front of them. this was in vision at one point to be the grand bargain which would incorporate in atomic reform and all sorts of budget cut
on taxes. we've got a few kinks to work out but they are quote, very, very close to a deal. tune in tonight 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. live for coverage of the fiscal cliff. myself and a cast of thousands with your latest as we count down toward the end of the year. "closing bell" coming up next. could be a big final hour of trading. bill griffith and an australian woman hosting the next hour. stay tuned anyway. >>> yeah. hang on, kids. here we go. welcome to "closing bell." i'm bill griffith. >> and i'm the australian woman. i'm mandy back at cnbc's world headquarters standing in for maria bartiromo. here we go, folks. stap yourself in. last trading hour for the whole year. the fiscal cliff, there may be a merge. we'll bring more on that. >> take a look at the charts. this tells the story in the last few minutes with mitch mcconnell on the floor saying that we are very, very close. we'll get more details from john harwood in a moment, but right now the markets are voting and they're giving thumbs up with the dow up 138 points. nasdaq up 2% right now. it's been strong all day. now at 3,020. and the
. gregg: this is it. we are just hours away from falling off the so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum the senate gavels in at 11:00 a.m. we'll see if there was some miracle overnight. gregg: i doubt that. yesterday, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell made an emergency call to the vice president joe biden in an evident to jump-start negotiations. heather: if no deal is haed out today, majority leader reid says he will call a vote on a separate white house plan that reflects's original proposal. gregg: chief correspondent mike emanuel kicks off the coverage. mike, where do the things stand in the fiscal cliff talks at this critical late-stage? >> reporter: gregg, there seems
obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start with you. thi
that has the pedal to the metal. what you and i have talked about before repeatedly, $4 in taxes for every dollar in phantom spending cuts. that's fiscal irritation, but the health of corporate america will be what ultimately prevails. >> sounds like david has been reading your book, rick santelli. >> it does. >> big fan of rick. >> this is such a perverse world we live in, okay. let's look as what's happening. down 158 in stocks and that pushed the ten-year yield under 170, okay. >> really. let me get this straight. they can't get a deal on controlling out-of-control debt, so rates go down. i used to trade during graham/rudman and i remember when they couldn't get deficit conversations right, treasuries went down and stocks went down. oh, would i love to get back to that type of reality. >> yeah. but you had a different guy at the federal reserve at the time. >> yeah, a different guy, you know, in hindsight he was maybe the monetizer in charge -- in chief, and we get a little historical perspective on that, but as many things that i disagree with alan greenspan on, i thought he was at lea
: the president is getting higher taxes if we go over the cliff and he can go back and change the tax rate for those making $250,000 or less. the speaker saying it has to be $1 million or above. the president much more in the driver's seat. guest: yes and no. let's say we go over the cliff and that's the markets are in a panic and people have paychecks that have less money in them. people will not necessarily blame john boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what
on the senate, and as democrats dig in to protect social programs, republicans do the same on taxes. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count tw
are of the fiscal cliff. tonight we will all begin the larger set of tax increases in american history. that is new year's to you from our elected officials. did i also mentioned you are getting a pay raise in the new year as well. all this could have been avoided if congress got its act together, but the doomsday option hit and the president set in motion. there is a chance of some sort of deal, but we have to wait until the new year. let's go directly to washington senior washington correspondent, peter barnes, with details of negotiations. >> reporter: still some pieces being negotiated tonight, particularly on the sequestration, those automatic spending cuts that are supposed to take effect on january 2nd. about $100 billion. about half of that on the past -- defense department. still trying to work through the details of some democratic and republican side. it's unclear if there will actually get to a vote in the senate on that tonight, but they could if they work something out. otherwise we have the framework from sources familiar with these negotiations. here are some of the things that are
who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because they just won the house in a big way. whether or not these two men are actually going to be the ones to strike a deal, we're not sure, but we are told, our ted barrett and jessica yellin and i are told by multiple sources that it does seem that at this point, at this late hour, the talks are primarily centered around and between these two men, between mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, and joe biden, the vice president. harry reid, the senate democratic leader is certainly very well-informed. he's kept apprised of what's going on just as the house speaker on the other side of the capitol is as well but these two men are probably hopefully going to work late into the night, maybe early in the morning to see if they can come up with some way to put this in real terms for americans, some way to avert the taxes for every american going up in a big way starting tomorrow night. >> so it's no burning the midnight oil for the sena
to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> now, one of the questions in the days ahead will be whether or not this strategy back fired because republican leaders on the hill had their feathers ruffled by the fact that the president seemed to be blaming them. and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great questi
international corporations and google recuesed of trying to avoid paying a fair amount of the tax. members of the public accounts committee skied zero executives. they said they were doing anything wrong. they fouled losses in the u.k. almost every year. >> if you've made losses in the suck which is what you're fighting, over 15 years, what has you doing business here? >> we know that we must within the u.k. to be a successful company. >> but you're not making money. >> we've had encouragement over times. >> 15 years. andre still making losses yet you're carrying on. if it's true. >> i assure you it's very strew. we're not at all there. >> i mean for 14 years of trading this -- in this country and get paid $17.6 million in corporation tax. you either want the business very badly or something else is going on. >> would you consider making a commit development the british marketplace about the degree to which you will have a fair approach to taxation? >> we are never aggressive in avoiding taxes by any means. we do not have tax havens in place. that's just now hot we do business. we look for
-called fiscal cliff. it's come down to a matter of hours. midnight tomorrow, everybody's taxes going up unless something happens in washington, d.c. hello to you all and welcome to weekends with alex witt. i'm t.j. holmes filling in for alex. a consequence of history in the nation's capital if congress cannot reach a compromise deal on tax and spending cuts. a short time ago, we were hearing from the president talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations. he spoke exclusively on "meet the press" and he had a message for congress. >> at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up and 2 million people don't lose their unemployment. i was modestly hopeful yesterday. now, the pressure is on congress to produce. >> the president responded to what would happen if no agreement is reached and the nation does fall over that cliff. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. if people start seeing that on januar
to hammer out a deal picking tax break ceilings, trying to lessen the impact of spending cuts. there are still major obstacles to pass. but this morning we're hearing that progress is being made. we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock markets moving up because it's a little erratic. dana bash is watching that live for us. dana, last hour you were saying progress is being made. now you've been hearing rumblings on the opposite
to washington. congress is also coming back tomorrow. there's less than one week left to avert the tax hikes and automatic cuts that go in to effect january the 1st. it looks like any deal will be a lot smaller than everyone want. >> realistically, i personally i don't think we'll get the big plan in the next six days. be great if we could . >> but this morning, bernie sanders said the blame is with the republicans. >> there's really a great deal of concern that the republican party failed to do anything. that it seems that in the house now boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >>> want to bring in david nakamara and meredith shiner. david, i'll start with you. you know, the president coming back for appearance sake as some might say or, you know, when we look at what he can do tomorrow what might he have in the works here? >> richard, i think to get a look at that, look at friday scaling down the proposal. he said i want a big deal ultimately but before the new year we don't have time and probably going to work with senate -- the senate to sort of come up with a possib
? that's because almost every one of us is facing a major tax hike in our 2013 pay economics if congress does not reach the agreement on the fiscal cliff. right now there are still negotiations that are going on. they are being led by the vice president, vice president biden and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources say that they are making some progress, but even if a deal is reached, no guarantee it's going to pass. listen to what one democratic senator, tom harkin, said on on the senate floor just earlier this morning. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class, the real middle class, those making 30, 50, 60, $7,000 a year. that's the real middle class in america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly as i've said before no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way it's shaping up. >> we want to bring in dana bash on capitol hill. when you think about it, both sides are not happy with what's taking place, at least what they're talking about. i know you have some new in
will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the president today just now was really an
and then tax hikes on everyone, automatic spending cuts, and no deal reported. the two parties are talking again at least. steve has the latest from capitol hill. >> sources are capitol hill say president obama in today's talks feels he has the advantage back and that he will press on his original demand that income taxes rise on earnings over $250,000. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid november the four congressional leaders at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker john boehner is a key figure. >> the fact that he has come back to me says that they cannot come up with some kind of agreement. -- that they can come up with an agreement. >> both sides want to avoid middle-class tax cuts. the hang up is the tax hikes on the rich. those making over $250,000 in the obama reposal or $400,000, a level that mitch mcconnell reportedly said he might be able to sel? republicans won the debate shifted. >> the talk about taxes, but what it should be about is what we want to talk about today -- the medicare fiscal cliff. >> no date to cut a day to reform entitlements
and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me at this hour a deal is looking doubtful. of course, we want to underscore the fact that these negotiations are very fluid so that characterization could change at any moment, but it seems as though the discuss
cuts and tax hikes for nearly every american. i'm gregg jarrett. welcome to a brand-new hour. >> arthel: i'm art article. 11th how-hour scrambling after a meeting with president obama and leaders from the house and senate with high noon fast approaching, president is pushing to seal the deal. >> modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get hundred percent of what they want. let's make sure that middle-class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can do their can't do their jobs. >> arthel: now the latest. >> discussions are ongoing but we shouldn't expect any announcements before senators are briefed. key players are pretty tight-lipped. after a white house meeting yesterday, one of the top negotiators sounded hopeful. >> we had a longs meeting in the white house, very constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> reporter: sources say john boehner referred to his senate colleagues and told th
that they agree that it is important now to keep taxes from going up on most people and accept the reality that they will go up by the top 1 pshgs 2%, 250,000 in income and above. and it does look, to me, that there are enough votes if senator reid puts that on the floor for it to break the 60. but the republican probably going to filibuster it. >> even at 250,000, not 400 or 500, other numbers that have been floated? >> those are the compromise numbers. that's an effort by the president and senator reid to bring the republicans along. but senator reid said his preference is 250,000, which i agree with, by the way. what we're talking about is 4.6% increase in taxes. that means if you're making 250,000 ayear for every additional 1,000 you'll pay $46. the notion of paying $46 out of 1,000 for wealthy people has any negative affect on anybody, i confirmed this talking to one of wealthiest men of boston, i asked if we were to raise taxes by that amount on him would he know it if his accountant didn't make a point of telling him. he said of course not. but in any case the 400 is an effort to ha
if this administration. they continue to work at that. they continue to negotiate. if you make over, you would see a tax increase. this is a negotiation. everything remains very fluid right now. if they do reach a deal, then it comes time to sell it to individual lawmakers. then the house would have to eventually vote on it. let's say a tax increase, preventing a tax increase, if that something you could support? >> they will increase taxes. we have voted to not raise taxes on anybody and extend the tax reductions for everybody. that was a bipartisan vote taken on -- rich: hold on one second. we have senator harry reid on the floor. dagen: there is senator harry reid. >> it is for the date only. they will. dagen: roughly ten minutes each. >> mr. president, i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here. somehow, the democrats have agreed to raise the level. dagen: we will monitor what is going on on the senate floor. we will see if senator harry reid has more comments to make. rich, my apologies for interrupting you and the congresswoman. i h
in on a tax rate compromise in the region of a $450,000 to $550,000 threshold. a higher rate than the president's earlier compromise as well as an agreement on the estate tax. sticking points remain. president obama seemed resigned to going over the cliff. >> if all else fails, if republicans do, in fact, decide to block it so that taxes on middle class families do, in fact, go up on january 1st, then on january 4th the first bill to be introduced on the floor will be to cut taxes on middle class families. >> and this morning former white house spokesman robert gibbs was even more blunt. >> the republicans simply can't utter the word yes. they cannot utter the word yes. i mean, i feel like it's -- i feel like you're talking to a 5-year-old, and, you know, you're saying, look, you have to eat your vegetables. the 5-year-old says, ah, you know, maybe. i will eat half of them, and you say will you eat a quarter of them? i will eat a quarter of them. >> out of control 5-year-old. still, the senate is back at it today trying to resolve the impasse. while the two sides seem to be nearin
aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and th
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